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Saturday, May 7, 2011

Rise Against/Bad Religion @ Terminal 5 NYC 5/6/11



And the love-hate relationship with this awesome yet dreadful venue continues. As Jim Nantz would say “Hello friends”, and take a seat aboard a train head down the tracks of the 46 installment of the Jay Porks Never Ending Concert Series.. Tonight Me and fellow Jay Porks Experiencer Pam are heading out to meet Terminal 5 in NYC, this time for Rise Against w/ Bad Religion. Now, call me, Pam and my father a few of the crazy ones-but we here are clueless to the fact of why Rise Against is the headliner. This is not a knock at all at the band, but I would be under the impression that Bad Religion would have a bigger following(considering they sold out four shows in NYC last year).. Regardless both shows are sold out as they played here last night.. Since I'm going straight from work I have the white button down on with the blazer, again the “working journalist” look.. and let's get this party start shall we?

I have myself a little idea- And this comes from Reverend Justito and I having back and forth convos about why Rise Against was headlining, and the sometimes crazy differences in popular music on each coast, etc. So how about some statistical analysis on this issue? Again, I'm on my way there straight from work so should getting there early.. how about while I await Pam's arrival (she has the tickets) I use my waiter pad I stole from work to I make two columns- one Bad Religion and one Rise Against and just randomally approach on people outside waiting for doors and ask them simply- "who you here to see?".. Because I gotta find out if I'm crazy or what-the first time I ever heard a Rise Against song it was me accidentally listening to the radio and I only knew who it was by the DJ mentioning that it was the new Rise Against.


So I got off the train at almost 6.. At a stop earlier than I should have,so after walking a distance that should be illegal for us chubby kids to walk- I made it to the front of the place about 6:30, and there was plenty of people out there. I rethought the survey idea- then decided to go through with it.

So standing on the corner asking passers who they're here to see, I got some interesting answers. I would say "Hey, I'm an annoying guy with a blog, just taking a tally here-who you here to see tonight?" You would not believe how many people said to me: "nah man I don't need tickets".. Allow me to go caps lock for a second-I DON'T HAVE TICKETS! JUST NAME THE BAND YOU'RE HERE TO SEE! The stupidity of people and the ability to be such assholes not to just say two words. Just name one band for me-Don't say stuff like “I'm not suppose to talk to strangers” and laugh about walking away..o And to those who said “Four Years Strong”, sorry I didn't have a column for you...lots of not nice people, but the first group of people I ran into were really cool about it.. and at least I was freakin' doin it right? And when people would pass me up I'm yelling at them down the block like “You know what-I don't wanna see you following me on Twitter in 6 months when print media dies” and stuff to that effect.. sarcastically saying “You know this is new journalism, this is how you get your news now-through people like me. And again all the people who said “I don't need tickets” do you think I'd be selling tickets 5 feet away from the 6 thugs who were on different corners selling tickets to this "Sold Out " show? Just taking a survey here..speaking of said survey I closed the polls when we walked inside, and it was completely overwhelming how many more people stated they were here to see Rise Against.. Final total was 75 people for Rise Against and 14 for Bad Religion- and that's counting me and Pam for BR. I figured it'd be at least 50-50, boy was I wrong. I was amazed..So let me state that yes, I did underestimate Rise Against's east coast fan base.

Need to tell a cool story here-Midway through this survey I end up next to a dude wearing an 'EYEHATEGOD' tee shirt( awesome band) and he's trying to sell two tickets. I'm thinking he's a nut-because of the previous mentioned thugs 5 feet away from us, so basically this dude next to me is on their turf. See this is what always happens at these shows-they're sold out in minutes yet I could go night of show and scalp a ticket(unless it's Alice in Chains) from some dude who works the corner. And if that wasn't enough its never some dude who just has an extra-it's you give the money to someone on one corner and walk across the street and someone else gives you your ticket.. it's a whole operation they have going like,-at all these shows I got to in NYC it goes on.. it's looks like dealing drugs except with tickets they way these guys work, I watch “The Wire”.. and to put it gently (tweaking Dorthy's famous line from the Wizard of Oz) ”We're not in Staten Island anymore”.. So one of these big dudes on the corner comes up and wants to buy them- my friend in the tee shirt (Max) tells him 60 for the pair...the dude goes "I'll give you 40".. Im thinking in my head shit man take it and run...Max looks at this dude and says "It's 60 or you could walk". I was floored-now this dude Max is someone who owns a pair of balls-I mean he looks kinda like me, and he's talking down to this professional scalper. So eventually the dude says 50 and Max takes it and he walks away. HERE IS THE KICKER-The dude looks at the tickets at the price says Zero Dollars, Max won them in a contest or something. He scalped the scalper. Then he stuck around as I waited for Pam saying and I quote “It's so funny to watch this guy not sell this ticket-everyone's in there already. It's over.” And it was because right as Pam and I were walking in about 8:15 or so (actually was asked to open my cigarette pack to check for drugs on the way in) and I saw the dude who bought the tickets from Max walking around saying “Does anyone want free tickets?”.. that whole story is tagged with #Winning. I took his number down because he says he gets tickets and stuff and has Seether tickets for later this month at Gramercy-Need to see if I could get my shift covered if so I'm getting those.


Anyway we finally get in and I wanna run out to the rooftop smoke deck because Pam's never seen it.. So many confusing stairwells and a people on top of people on top of people. See at Terminal 5 once those spots along the railings on the 2nd and 3rd floors are taken, there's no way to see the stage besides the TVs I'm noticing.. The pic I have up here was taken by annoying people bending near crotches to snap, you're probably thinking "why wouldn't he stay there?".. Anyway. we finally the stairway to the roof when Bad Religion kicked off their set at promptly 8:45 I immediately turned and said "fuck it" as we tried to make our way to a decent spot.. We spent the first two songs on the 3rd floor.. The spots along the railing are like 4 heads deep at this point-again no view at all. Being I was taking a frickin' survey outside for 2 hours-I had no shame in climbing up on a couch to try and get above the people. Still wasn't able to get a decent shot of the stage, because the lights hanging from the ceiling up there obstruct the view.. So I hop down and we turn to each other and go “2nd floor?”.. so we head down-Way more packed than the 3rd and the best view from there was stage happenings that are being shown on he LCD TV screens all over venue..again, no buenos.

So we headed down to the mobbed 1st floor(the 1st floor with people stacked out into the hallway you read about in my PJ Harvey review) and found a spot against the wall all the way in the back tucked behind a bar- hey, at least I could get some pics from this spot when the preztel stand isn't in my way. And way back hear the vocals are terrible, like there was a lot of chat in between songs that me and Pam couldn't hear a word of-and this translates on the video I managed to get, which was a vid of “I want to Conquer The World”/"21st century Digital Boy" and then "Infected" (the ladder two by far two of my absolute favorite songs by them)on video in this spot. Anyway, like you'll hear kick ass riffs in these vids, but this is the second time I've had problems with the vocals in this venue (Meat Puppets/Dinosaur Jr back in 08'-walked out on Built to Spill) . So when you hear the sound on the vids-for once I can tell you it's not my camera it's Terminal 5's sound(especially when your so packed that the Fire Marshall would've shut you down right now- you have people backed into the hallway all the way to the merch table-I'm backed against a wall, it's a complete mess down there on that first floor... the only good thing I noticed was people were courteous as they passed by saw me filming they bent down to not get in the way. Props to them..


So like a typical punk band they're ripping through songs at-with the chatter at times that we can't hear, after I've gotten a few vids I'm really into this.. I mean I wasn't taking the setlist down, although there's an unofficial one at Setlist.FM.. So we're hangin' and me and Pam start talking about how old these dudes look..didn't show in the performance aspect of it but you know, you got these “LA Punk Rockers” here, looking more like normal folk.. To put it in perspective. they've been around 20+ years, and I've been on earth for 24 years. Damn... still rocking, and finally just as I got a real head nod going, and some cool tweets all of a sudden it was 9:26, and they went off. 8:45-9:26.... 41 minutes of the band I came to see. Of course I'm not too thrilled but their not the headliner as we know, Rise Against is(and recent Jay Porks polls show that about over 80% of that crowd was Rise Against), but at least I got to hear the songs I wanted and now during the break we can explore Terminal 5 and all it's confusion.


So we finally made it out to the rooftop smoke deck outdoor bar thing and I've mentioned it before, this is a really cool place up here. It's like, the bands should play up here, with the cities tall building surrounding you, drink in hand you feel comfortable. Speaking of drinks, I don't usually do this but I may have went a little over board at the bar. I mean, I try not to get completely hammered at these thing, usually stick to a beer or two. Let's just say a mention of a recent ex girlfriend and whiskey led to long rants by me, and looking down at people who came upstairs and screaming down at them “Here comes more people wondering why Rise Against is headlining!” and a few looked up and said “Exactly!”.... turn to Pam and say “Yea where were you when I was taking the survey buddy?”.. So I'm blabbing on-until I look at my phone-and its freakin' 10:51 already!(RA set time was 9:55) saying “Oh shit we gotta see some of Rise Against!” as we rushed in to at least try and see what was the deal.. We got to the first floor and caught their last song before the encore.. I was really just focused on trying to get some good crowd shots and stage shots because their lights looked amazing, I bet they did put on a great set, even though I have no idea of most of the goings on-the place was jumping on our way out when they were gonna encore everyone's chanting “One more song!” and as we're headed to the merch table me, like being a dick is chanting “No more songs!, No more songs!” which had at least two people in agreement(more people who missed the survey I guess!). Anyway, got the tour tee shirt that says Bad Religion on it next to a picture of Ronald Regan for $20... sweet... We headed to the Pam-Van, and I got dropped off in time to make the Midnight boat back to Staten...


So I guess that's it for now, I mean overall a fun night. Good tunes, taking surveys, getting tipsy-all in a good days work.. Well, won't be too long til we're back here, and with sticking with the punk theme, we will take our talents to Asbury Park, NJ for Social Distortion at the Stone Pony Summerstage. That will also be courtesy of the Pam-Van, helping me avoid all public transportation for that one. That's Saturday May 14th.. Keep up with the concert calender and stay tuned for Jay Porks Ticket Givaways this summer. Until then, it's 6:23AM over here on the east coast, maybe I should get to posting this..

Late!


Oh yea by the way epic pic right here-This is that same bum with the creative sign I saw outside the Hole shows I went to way back April of last year. Anyway, I wish I had money for the dude because he was telling me: "Ima catch 'dat Grace Potter N Da knock-turtles ya digg! OO LA LA lala LA LA!" I need to buy this guy a sandwich or something, he is the great bum ever, and he had the same sign..He was screaming "Lets YouTube this shit man!"-and I should've turned him into the next bum who makes millions off YouTube..



3 comments:

Freddy Rodriguez said...

I was at this show and agree with most of your points/observations. It was such a pro Rise Against crowd it wasnt even funny. The venue kinda sucks and the sound was crappy, and Rise Against Fans are still scratching their heads as to who that band was that went on before Rise Against. I, on the other hand, was there strictly for BR and it was as fun a show to watch as ever. Good stuff man, loved the article

Anonymous said...

I saw the opening night show in Vegas. Same story. 40 minutes of the band I came to see. Very disappointing.

Anonymous said...

How dare you! Rise Against is 10000x better than Bad Religion could hope to be. I'm a HUGE fan of BOTH bands, but Rise Against just beats them by a landslide, and are a far more popular band. Bad Religion has a more pseudo-cult following. Rise Against has an actual mainstream fan-base. Far better band than BR.